the defense department says the united states will be involved in mali. what are you hearing tonight as far as u.s. intervention? >> they're narrowing down the option. piloted planes to gather some intelligence is one option. drones, although one official told me those are in very high demand with things going on in yemen and afghanistan, libya and other areas around the world. he said look for possibly some air lift capacity. in other words, big cargo planes that would allow the french to get more equipment to where it's needed in mali, and refueling capability. in other words, the french jets doing some of the bombing, these american refueling tankers could pull up alongside them, and the french jets could refuel in air so they could go longer and further without having to come back to a base. >> interesting options. they're so eager to say there won't be mass combat troops on the ground, that's not on the table at all. rudy, the leader of the islamist group, one of the commanders we spoke to was full of bravado. i want to make sure i'm using the word w